Living In Bon Voyage Limbo - Page 5

shorty943 · 09-22-2007, 02:04 PM

Mumbles through pillow...

I know that one. And PTSD.

I wish the "inflight replays" would stop sometime. Soon.

Greg · 09-22-2007, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shorty943

A journalist, a retired sailor, and a housewife?, have just finished explaining to a NASA spaceship engineer how his computer goes together.

Heh. EVA guys don't do Windows.

Miros1 · 09-22-2007, 08:01 PM

Software guys don't do hardware!

Greg · 09-23-2007, 12:27 AM

"Real men don't need software! They burn it into the bare metal!"

Miros1 · 09-23-2007, 08:56 PM

Oh, we forgot my newest qualification. Amateur Practical Nurse. Incisions packed. Insulin injected. No waiting.

shorty943 · 09-24-2007, 12:38 PM

They do advise us, in these times of uncertain employment security, that we should "multi-skill" as much as we can.

When we did an EVA we used little fast boats.
Black ones. With "Bang sticks".

Hey, when you are being shot at.

Or APC's. I like them. Or Helicopters. I like them, when they get me safely home.
Never did any Sub stuff. They make me shiver.

["Real men don't need software! They burn it into the bare metal!" Greg]

You want help building a "Steam Powered Space Ship"?

Miros1 · 09-24-2007, 02:33 PM

Never heard of "Steam Punk," Shorty?

http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/books/steampunk/

Greg · 09-24-2007, 05:58 PM

Hey, the Saturn V rocket (after it dropped the first stage) and the Space Shuttle (after it drops its boosters) are steam-powered space ships!

shorty943 · 09-26-2007, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miros1

Never heard of "Steam Punk," Shorty?

http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/books/steampunk/

Umm, no? I live on isolated island near bottom of world.

Must click link.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg

Hey, the Saturn V rocket (after it dropped the first stage) and the Space Shuttle (after it drops its boosters) are steam-powered space ships!

Curses, foiled again.

More like beaten to it.

Any remaining Hydrogen Peroxide and LOX, becomes superheated steam in the vacuum of space?

Edit.

I managed to find a conflict, or five, and got BV to actually get into holiday mode.
I duly sent my sims to "walk to a lot". Oh dear.

They got lost.
Yep. They never arrived at the appointed lot. The game has lost them.
Not only that, but the 2 household members, left behind to care for pet?
Game thinks they have gone on vacation as well now.

I can't enter the original household lot, nobody home.
I enter the vacation lot, and I can wait all day, but still nobody arrives, anywhere.

Start again.

Zirconia Wolf · 09-26-2007, 01:49 PM

Oh dear!

Have you tried any of the usual (i.e. cheaty) things to get them back? (Like the InSim's Summoner or maybe Inge's bush???? )

Not to sound like a broken record (if anybody still remembers what a record was) but- if you've got any custom content installed- it's 99.9% likely that it's yet another case of "Custom Content Clash".

I just went through a CCC recently myself (in whick 6 of the Maxis made Night Life community lots decided they would rather crash my game than load) so I feel your pain. The problem? One freaking decrotive plant (recolor, actually) that I hadn't even used yet.

On the "plus" side, it did give me an oppertunity to weed out/re-organise my rather disorganised Downloads folder...

Greg · 09-26-2007, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shorty943

Any remaining Hydrogen Peroxide and LOX, becomes superheated steam in the vacuum of space?

The Space Shuttle main engines and the Saturn S2 and S-IVB stages burn liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen, so the only thing coming out of the nozzles is steam. Very hot, very fast steam but nevertheless just steam.

On the other hand, the Space Shuttle's maneuvering rockets burn unsymmetrical dimethyl hydrazine and nitrogen textoxide. That's seriously nasty stuff. *gleep*

The first stage of the Saturn V rocket burned kerosene and LOX so it produced CO2 and steam.

Miros1 · 09-26-2007, 06:46 PM

So how's the new day job?

Greg · 09-27-2007, 01:22 AM

I'm having a great time! This new Orion spacecraft is going to be great! I wish to goodness we could get it flying sooner so that there won't be a lapse after the Space Shuttle retires in 2010, but the days of Apollo-era funding for NASA ended even before Neil and Buzz made those famous footprints.

I've been face down in Orion since Monday, trying to get caught up with the rest of the team and at the same time get myself wired into a whole new company.

One of the interesting features of Orion's lunar missions is almost a page right out of the Artemis Data Book. When they get to the moon, they will leave Orion to take care of itself in lunar orbit and the whole crew of four will descend to the lunar surface in the lander. The incredible advances in automation since the Apollo era make this possible.

For missions to the International Space Station, Orion can carry a crew of six. It's cozy; rather reminds me of stuffing six people into a six-passenger sedan; but that's all you need when you're just going to rendezvous with a fully equipped space station.

shorty943 · 09-27-2007, 02:32 PM

You got the Orion position!

That is great Greg.

ZW, I fixed it.

Crtl-Shift-C. DELETEALLCHARACTERS. exit.

Oh, and yes. After a more careful perusal of my \Downloads folder.

Well, several

's actually.

Once more into the breech dear friends. Time for one more session before bed.

See-ya.

Greg · 09-27-2007, 05:48 PM

Oops, I guess I failed to mention that. Yup, I'm lead engineer (or somesuch kind of title) on the Orion EVA systems.

And amusingly enough, crew survival equipment. The crew survival equipment consists of a can of Spam, a water filter, and a radio. They only need to be able to hang in there for 36 hours until the car pool arrives to pick them up. Maybe we should include a harmonica and deck of cards, too.

Miros1 · 09-27-2007, 07:13 PM

36 hours? Does that include time for the inevitable hurricane to blow itself out?

Greg · 09-28-2007, 01:05 AM

Landing in a hurricane is fantastically unlikely but, yes, if they happened to come down in a hurricane, it would be long gone in 36 hours.

mikedelaney16 · 09-28-2007, 03:01 AM

Is recovery planned for land or sea?

Or does the design allow for both?

I seem to recall in the 60s they could always opt for Atlantic or Pacific depending on weather.

Greg · 09-28-2007, 09:25 AM

The normal landing is on land but the spacecraft has to be designed for both.

I don't know how big Orion's landing footprint will be, but it ought to be similar to Apollo. I was in a meeting with Dick Gordon (Apollo 12 CM pilot) this week, where he mentioned that after entry interface Apollo's landing footprint was 1400 miles long by 400 wide.
If I recall correctly.

shorty943 · 09-28-2007, 02:28 PM

Wow, you space guys run it close into the wind. 36 Hrs? Spam?

No, not on my space ship. No spam. Bully Beef yes, but no spam.
Tins of good old chipped corned beef, yep.
At sea, 21 days survival rations, for 21 men, per life raft. That's the rules.

In the middle of the bloody ocean, and survival rations are tins and tins of salted beef.

Ahh, the good old days.

Swanning around in the Pacific, looking up to find Apollo coming home.

1400 x 400 miles. No worries mate. We can build that runway.
We'll just bulldoze a track beside the launcher.
We can send em up, and we can bring em home.

09-23-2007, 12:27 AM	#84
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	"Real men don't need software! They burn it into the bare metal!" __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

09-24-2007, 05:58 PM	#88
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Hey, the Saturn V rocket (after it dropped the first stage) and the Space Shuttle (after it drops its boosters) are steam-powered space ships! __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

09-26-2007, 01:49 PM	#90
Zirconia Wolf Reticulated MoonBat Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: My trusty computer in Issaquah WA, USA. Posts: 848	Oh dear! Have you tried any of the usual (i.e. cheaty) things to get them back? (Like the InSim's Summoner or maybe Inge's bush???? ) Not to sound like a broken record (if anybody still remembers what a record was) but- if you've got any custom content installed- it's 99.9% likely that it's yet another case of "Custom Content Clash". I just went through a CCC recently myself (in whick 6 of the Maxis made Night Life community lots decided they would rather crash my game than load) so I feel your pain. The problem? One freaking decrotive plant (recolor, actually) that I hadn't even used yet. On the "plus" side, it did give me an oppertunity to weed out/re-organise my rather disorganised Downloads folder... __________________ Long Live All Wild Canines! Leader Of The Moon-Bat Revolution!

09-27-2007, 01:22 AM	#93
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	I'm having a great time! This new Orion spacecraft is going to be great! I wish to goodness we could get it flying sooner so that there won't be a lapse after the Space Shuttle retires in 2010, but the days of Apollo-era funding for NASA ended even before Neil and Buzz made those famous footprints. I've been face down in Orion since Monday, trying to get caught up with the rest of the team and at the same time get myself wired into a whole new company. One of the interesting features of Orion's lunar missions is almost a page right out of the Artemis Data Book. When they get to the moon, they will leave Orion to take care of itself in lunar orbit and the whole crew of four will descend to the lunar surface in the lander. The incredible advances in automation since the Apollo era make this possible. For missions to the International Space Station, Orion can carry a crew of six. It's cozy; rather reminds me of stuffing six people into a six-passenger sedan; but that's all you need when you're just going to rendezvous with a fully equipped space station. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

09-27-2007, 02:32 PM	#94
shorty943 Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 805	You got the Orion position! That is great Greg. ZW, I fixed it. Crtl-Shift-C. DELETEALLCHARACTERS. exit. Oh, and yes. After a more careful perusal of my \Downloads folder. Well, several's actually. Once more into the breech dear friends. Time for one more session before bed. See-ya.

09-22-2007, 02:04 PM	#81
shorty943 Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 805	Mumbles through pillow... I know that one. And PTSD. I wish the "inflight replays" would stop sometime. Soon.

09-22-2007, 08:01 PM	#83
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Software guys don't do hardware!

09-23-2007, 08:56 PM	#85
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Oh, we forgot my newest qualification. Amateur Practical Nurse. Incisions packed. Insulin injected. No waiting.

09-24-2007, 12:38 PM	#86
shorty943 Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 805	They do advise us, in these times of uncertain employment security, that we should "multi-skill" as much as we can. When we did an EVA we used little fast boats. Black ones. With "Bang sticks". Hey, when you are being shot at. Or APC's. I like them. Or Helicopters. I like them, when they get me safely home. Never did any Sub stuff. They make me shiver. ["Real men don't need software! They burn it into the bare metal!" Greg] You want help building a "Steam Powered Space Ship"?

09-24-2007, 02:33 PM	#87
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Never heard of "Steam Punk," Shorty? http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/books/steampunk/

09-26-2007, 06:46 PM	#92
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	So how's the new day job?

09-27-2007, 05:48 PM	#95
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Oops, I guess I failed to mention that. Yup, I'm lead engineer (or somesuch kind of title) on the Orion EVA systems. And amusingly enough, crew survival equipment. The crew survival equipment consists of a can of Spam, a water filter, and a radio. They only need to be able to hang in there for 36 hours until the car pool arrives to pick them up. Maybe we should include a harmonica and deck of cards, too. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

09-27-2007, 07:13 PM	#96
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	36 hours? Does that include time for the inevitable hurricane to blow itself out?

09-28-2007, 01:05 AM	#97
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Landing in a hurricane is fantastically unlikely but, yes, if they happened to come down in a hurricane, it would be long gone in 36 hours. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

09-28-2007, 03:01 AM	#98
mikedelaney16 Solar Max Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 201	Is recovery planned for land or sea? Or does the design allow for both? I seem to recall in the 60s they could always opt for Atlantic or Pacific depending on weather.

09-28-2007, 09:25 AM	#99
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	The normal landing is on land but the spacecraft has to be designed for both. I don't know how big Orion's landing footprint will be, but it ought to be similar to Apollo. I was in a meeting with Dick Gordon (Apollo 12 CM pilot) this week, where he mentioned that after entry interface Apollo's landing footprint was 1400 miles long by 400 wide. If I recall correctly. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

09-28-2007, 02:28 PM	#100
shorty943 Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 805	Wow, you space guys run it close into the wind. 36 Hrs? Spam? No, not on my space ship. No spam. Bully Beef yes, but no spam. Tins of good old chipped corned beef, yep. At sea, 21 days survival rations, for 21 men, per life raft. That's the rules. In the middle of the bloody ocean, and survival rations are tins and tins of salted beef. Ahh, the good old days. Swanning around in the Pacific, looking up to find Apollo coming home. 1400 x 400 miles. No worries mate. We can build that runway. We'll just bulldoze a track beside the launcher. We can send em up, and we can bring em home.