How to prevent ugly townies in new hoods! - Page 10

Greg · 06-08-2008, 04:55 PM

Yeah, if the game won't even package up the lot for you, then the only way to export it is to remove whatever it is that's preventing the lot from being exported. Graves in a cemetery do sound like a probable culprit.

Sita · 06-08-2008, 10:18 PM

It's not a big deal. I can soon make a new cemetery - could be quite fun populating it actually :P And I will write protect the files, I did have them set to write protect before. Brain creaks a little at times :lol

Theshay · 06-11-2008, 05:02 AM

does this work for family sims also? i found myself with some ugly kids =/

Miros1 · 06-11-2008, 08:44 AM

Testing! Will post pictures. So far my net search agrees with Greg.

Why Sim kids are ugly: Maxis made an attempt to keep the inherited facial geometry "within limits," called faceblendlimits, which basically means your Sim kids have 3 parents, the two you've chosen, and one of the templates (not sure how the game decides which one). If your templates are ugly (like most of the Maxis supplied templates), your kids are ugly!

There are two ways to improve your born-in-game Sims:

1) The new face templates will help by providing more attractive "3rd parents."
2) Use the "faceBlendLimits off" cheat in your userstartup.cheat file. This bypasses the entire "3rd parent" concept.

Welcome to SunSims!

Greg · 06-11-2008, 11:58 AM

The bit about having three parents is not accurate. Face blend limits are not based on a template sim.

Face blend limits control how far one parent's facial geometry is allowed to distort the other parent's facial geometry. They should prevent bizarre-looking children, not cause them.

Theshay · 06-11-2008, 03:39 PM

Thankies for the info guys. I'm gonna chalk this one sim up for a loss and try to prevent others from getting hit with the ugly stick. LOL as soon as i can find a tut i can follow i would like to get back into the simming game

Miros1 · 06-12-2008, 10:26 AM

So far my test Sim kids look much the same with the limits on or off! Maybe I shouldn't have chosen such a distorted template to test with. I used the werewolf face from MTS2.

Theshay, what part of the tutorial are you having troubles with? I could explain and/or clarify if you need.

Miros1 · 07-09-2008, 08:57 AM

Faceblendlimits off:

Faceblendlimits on:

As I said, virtually the same. Maybe the lupine template is just too distorted!

Greg · 07-09-2008, 09:13 AM

It certainly looks like an attempt at making a canine muzzle. You can imagine how much this endears me to the idea of installing Pets.

Miros1 · 07-09-2008, 05:14 PM

The lupine face has nothing to do with Pets. It's from MTS2. Maybe I'll try again with the wonderful Maxis templates...

Greg · 07-10-2008, 01:14 AM

Oh thank goodness! That's good to hear!

Zirconia Wolf · 09-08-2008, 02:41 PM

Just an inquiry, now that I have FT installed:

Miros, should the /Program Files/The Sims 2 Free Time/TSData/Res/User Data/Neighborhood/F001 folder be added to the Scorched Earth instruction for Free Time?

-ZW

Miros1 · 09-08-2008, 08:11 PM

Um, yeah. I'll add it to the instructions after dragging the nephew around.

Greg · 09-09-2008, 12:09 AM

Is this the same nephew as the one with the arrows?

Miros1 · 09-09-2008, 06:22 AM

Arrows? Um, no, that was my sister's son, who now works for the National Weather Service. If you talk to the forecaster with the best record from the Huntsville office, that's him!

This is hubby's brother's son who is tall and skinny and owes us money, so he can be conned into lifting heavy computer monitors and such... The Sims 2 is great at 2048xsome-other-huge-number!

Zirconia, I added the thing about /Program Files/The Sims 2 Free Time/TSData/Res/User Data/Neighborhood/F001 to the scorched earth section. Are there any sub-folders in there that look like they might have Sims in them? Like the files that start with cx_ and stuff like that?

Miros1 · 09-16-2008, 04:29 AM

I've added the stubs for the Apartment Life Tenants (or whatever you want to call them). Preliminary reports say they're as stupid and ugly as most other Maxis creations!

Zirconia Wolf · 09-17-2008, 01:47 PM

Yes, there is a Characters folder in the F001 file.

I nuked the whole thing (Scorched Earth) after letting Desiderata Valley install, so I had to peek inside my zip file to remember...

-ZW

(I wish AL would use the existing Townies as roommates instead of adding all the "Social Group" Sims! Any idea how many of those new Sims there are?)

Greg · 09-17-2008, 03:07 PM

Does that mean there's a whole new crop of Maxian clutter in the NPC pool?

Zirconia Wolf · 09-17-2008, 06:31 PM

Yes, I'm afraid it does.

AL adds "Social Groups" (Bohemians, Gear Heads, Jocks, Socialites & Techs) to the mix, but rather than "upgrade" pre-existing Townies (like they did with NL) Maxis instead opted to generate a whole new pool of NPCs to add to the existing Townies population.

Harrumph.

-ZW

Miros1 · 09-17-2008, 10:37 PM

Oh, heck! More stupid ugly people to zip up and delete! Really sad that random is better than Maxis generated!

Um, Downtownies weren't upgraded Townies, they were their own stupid ugly group.

06-08-2008, 04:55 PM	#181
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Yeah, if the game won't even package up the lot for you, then the only way to export it is to remove whatever it is that's preventing the lot from being exported. Graves in a cemetery do sound like a probable culprit. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

06-11-2008, 08:44 AM	#184
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Testing! Will post pictures. So far my net search agrees with Greg. Why Sim kids are ugly: Maxis made an attempt to keep the inherited facial geometry "within limits," called faceblendlimits, which basically means your Sim kids have 3 parents, the two you've chosen, and one of the templates (not sure how the game decides which one). If your templates are ugly (like most of the Maxis supplied templates), your kids are ugly! There are two ways to improve your born-in-game Sims: 1) The new face templates will help by providing more attractive "3rd parents." 2) Use the "faceBlendLimits off" cheat in your userstartup.cheat file. This bypasses the entire "3rd parent" concept. Welcome to SunSims! __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game). Last edited by Miros1 : 06-11-2008 at 01:48 PM.

06-11-2008, 11:58 AM	#185
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	The bit about having three parents is not accurate. Face blend limits are not based on a template sim. Face blend limits control how far one parent's facial geometry is allowed to distort the other parent's facial geometry. They should prevent bizarre-looking children, not cause them. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

06-12-2008, 10:26 AM	#187
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	So far my test Sim kids look much the same with the limits on or off! Maybe I shouldn't have chosen such a distorted template to test with. I used the werewolf face from MTS2. Theshay, what part of the tutorial are you having troubles with? I could explain and/or clarify if you need. __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

07-09-2008, 08:57 AM	#188
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Faceblendlimits off: Faceblendlimits on: As I said, virtually the same. Maybe the lupine template is just too distorted! __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

06-08-2008, 10:18 PM	#182
Sita Solar Max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: England Posts: 371	It's not a big deal. I can soon make a new cemetery - could be quite fun populating it actually :P And I will write protect the files, I did have them set to write protect before. Brain creaks a little at times :lol

06-11-2008, 05:02 AM	#183
Theshay Rising Sun Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2	does this work for family sims also? i found myself with some ugly kids =/

06-11-2008, 03:39 PM	#186
Theshay Rising Sun Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2	Thankies for the info guys. I'm gonna chalk this one sim up for a loss and try to prevent others from getting hit with the ugly stick. LOL as soon as i can find a tut i can follow i would like to get back into the simming game

07-09-2008, 09:13 AM	#189
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	It certainly looks like an attempt at making a canine muzzle. You can imagine how much this endears me to the idea of installing Pets. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

07-09-2008, 05:14 PM	#190
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	The lupine face has nothing to do with Pets. It's from MTS2. Maybe I'll try again with the wonderful Maxis templates... __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

07-10-2008, 01:14 AM	#191
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Oh thank goodness! That's good to hear! __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

09-08-2008, 02:41 PM	#192
Zirconia Wolf Reticulated MoonBat Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: My trusty computer in Issaquah WA, USA. Posts: 848	Just an inquiry, now that I have FT installed: Miros, should the /Program Files/The Sims 2 Free Time/TSData/Res/User Data/Neighborhood/F001 folder be added to the Scorched Earth instruction for Free Time? -ZW __________________ Long Live All Wild Canines! Leader Of The Moon-Bat Revolution!

09-08-2008, 08:11 PM	#193
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Um, yeah. I'll add it to the instructions after dragging the nephew around. __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

09-09-2008, 12:09 AM	#194
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Is this the same nephew as the one with the arrows? __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

09-09-2008, 06:22 AM	#195
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Arrows? Um, no, that was my sister's son, who now works for the National Weather Service. If you talk to the forecaster with the best record from the Huntsville office, that's him! This is hubby's brother's son who is tall and skinny and owes us money, so he can be conned into lifting heavy computer monitors and such... The Sims 2 is great at 2048xsome-other-huge-number! Zirconia, I added the thing about /Program Files/The Sims 2 Free Time/TSData/Res/User Data/Neighborhood/F001 to the scorched earth section. Are there any sub-folders in there that look like they might have Sims in them? Like the files that start with cx_ and stuff like that? __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game). Last edited by Miros1 : 09-09-2008 at 06:42 AM.

09-16-2008, 04:29 AM	#196
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	I've added the stubs for the Apartment Life Tenants (or whatever you want to call them). Preliminary reports say they're as stupid and ugly as most other Maxis creations! __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

09-17-2008, 01:47 PM	#197
Zirconia Wolf Reticulated MoonBat Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: My trusty computer in Issaquah WA, USA. Posts: 848	Yes, there is a Characters folder in the F001 file. I nuked the whole thing (Scorched Earth) after letting Desiderata Valley install, so I had to peek inside my zip file to remember... -ZW (I wish AL would use the existing Townies as roommates instead of adding all the "Social Group" Sims! Any idea how many of those new Sims there are?) __________________ Long Live All Wild Canines! Leader Of The Moon-Bat Revolution!

09-17-2008, 03:07 PM	#198
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Does that mean there's a whole new crop of Maxian clutter in the NPC pool? __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

09-17-2008, 06:31 PM	#199
Zirconia Wolf Reticulated MoonBat Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: My trusty computer in Issaquah WA, USA. Posts: 848	Yes, I'm afraid it does. AL adds "Social Groups" (Bohemians, Gear Heads, Jocks, Socialites & Techs) to the mix, but rather than "upgrade" pre-existing Townies (like they did with NL) Maxis instead opted to generate a whole new pool of NPCs to add to the existing Townies population. Harrumph. -ZW __________________ Long Live All Wild Canines! Leader Of The Moon-Bat Revolution!

09-17-2008, 10:37 PM	#200
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Oh, heck! More stupid ugly people to zip up and delete! Really sad that random is better than Maxis generated! Um, Downtownies weren't upgraded Townies, they were their own stupid ugly group. __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).