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mikedelaney16 · 08-22-2007, 06:35 PM

Is there a technical reason for raising the roof?

Miros1 · 08-22-2007, 08:32 PM

I would assume that either the cooks or the kitchen appliances were too tall for the original configuration.

shorty943 · 08-22-2007, 11:28 PM

Yep, spot on the money, Lady M. A little more headroom and space is the main reason for the lift.
With fresh potable water tankage, grey water waste storage, gas bottles and kitchen hot water services, generators and airconditioning. This has to be entirely self contained and serviced, not at all unlike a ship at sea, or even the space shuttle. It will be operating out of town, at silo and grain storage facilities, basically, out in a paddock. To feed hungry truckers and farmers, who work round the clock for about 3 months to get the harvest in.

So the rear floor has been raised to provide room for tanks, the rear passenger door has been removed and will be boxed in to provide space for tanks and gas bottles. And, at 5 foot 6 inches, even I could not stand up in the rear end any more, we had to raise the roof.
And we had a bit of fun doing it. Wee, look out its crashing, etc.
Luckily, none of us are strangers to this sort of thing, so we were well clear when the final lift proved a little askew.
After that, it was just a matter of a couple of strong backs, drop the new support columns into place, and line up the roof again. She dropped on beautifully once I had leveled it up properly. A couple of string lines to help keep it true, and start to weld it all back together. Easy.

mikedelaney16 · 08-23-2007, 03:50 AM

Ok, I was thinking like a city boy, where the bus can go back to base every night for fresh supplies and cleaning. I keep forgetting you guys don't measure farm sizes in acres, hectares or even square miles, but hundreds or thousands of square miles.

shorty943 · 08-23-2007, 07:41 AM

You got it.

Although this area is smaller farm sizes of only a couple of hundred thousand acres per farm. Further north is the pastoral grazing land, with the big station properties. But they don't crop, too far out of the rainfall line.
About 100 years ago, a state surveyor by the name of Goyder, ran around checking rainfall. Some 80 miles north of my location the rainfall gets down below a reliable 11 inches per year, even we can't farm that. Known as Goyders line, we crop south of the line, and graze north of it. And we crop cereal grains, at a rainfall of about 18 inches per year here.
South Australia, the driest state, in the driest continent, on the planet. And the Mallee is actually the seabed of an ancient shallow tropical sea. Huge lumps of limestone that are massive plates of fossil coral, rocks that turn out to be huge fossilized giant clam shells. It is a remarkable region.

shorty943 · 08-29-2007, 12:41 AM

Wouldn't you know it. There has been a set back in the IOU thing again.

Person in question, had a motorcar accident on Sunday afternoon. Can't leave a single mother and two kids stranded now can I.
So now, I have no transport, I have been waiting for this loan to be repaid so I can get a new engine for my Land Rover, no money, and not much humour left either.

Que Sera.

Greg · 08-29-2007, 03:28 AM

Is irrigation an option? There's a big ol' river there that doesn't seem to be doing much other than decreasing the salinity of the ocean.

shorty943 · 08-29-2007, 09:27 AM

Irrigation?

Miros1 · 08-29-2007, 12:54 PM

That's where the people upstream spray the river water all over their land so the people downstream don't have any.

Greg · 08-29-2007, 02:30 PM

It's what feeds 90% of the people in the world.

shorty943 · 08-29-2007, 04:38 PM

Big problem with old river. One hundred years of European thinking, has almost killed that river. Irrigation run off drains back into the river, some drains are seven times saltier than the ocean. Old river is very sick.
What the settlers didn't realise was the nature of the area. The native trees are deep rooted, help keep the water table salt levels down. Settlers cleared the land for crops and livestock, the water table salt has been rising ever since. Today in low lying areas you can almost watch the salt crystalise before your eyes on a summer day.

Greg · 08-30-2007, 12:43 AM

Aw darn. Runoff can be fixed, but salty soil is a whole different kind of problem.

shorty943 · 08-30-2007, 01:51 PM

Oh yeah. Lots of deep holes, bored all over the place, and saline run off is pumped deep underground in what is called salt interdiction, by the public servants.
I call it salinating the artesian basins.

On the bright side. I am now sitting at my "new" computer.
An ex-government refurbished Acer Veriton 5200. P4 at 1.6 Ghz, 512 Mb of RAM, SIS AGP card with no vertex shaders etc, (but that will be swapped out for an nVidea 5500 next week) and a tiny 20 Gb hard disk, also to be augmented with the windows drives from the 64 bit Athlon. That machine now becomes my Linux only machine now.
Yeehaa, Network play time again. With Apache and Samba and all them other tech toys.

Greg · 08-30-2007, 04:26 PM

*blink* What is a vertex shader and why would I care if I had one?

mikedelaney16 · 08-31-2007, 03:42 PM

Among other things, you need shaders enabled to see fish in the aquariums and/or fish in the ponds.

Miros1 · 08-31-2007, 03:43 PM

And since Bernadette is fish-obsessed, Greg must have them...

Sita · 08-31-2007, 05:39 PM

hey I got some good news!

Hubby's brain scan was clear, "normal" whatever that means.
We had reason to worry, it has been a completely bonkers summer and he has certainly been very unwell. So big relief there.

Miros1 · 08-31-2007, 07:52 PM

Cheer! Glad someone's got good news!

Greg · 09-01-2007, 12:46 AM

Wow! That's great news, Sita! Hey, I'll take "normal" no matter what it means!

Zenmistress · 09-01-2007, 01:51 AM

Good to hear, Sita! I guess having a normal brain is better than an abnormal brain. I'm glad the news was good!

08-29-2007, 03:28 AM	#107
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Is irrigation an option? There's a big ol' river there that doesn't seem to be doing much other than decreasing the salinity of the ocean. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

08-29-2007, 02:30 PM	#110
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	It's what feeds 90% of the people in the world. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

08-30-2007, 12:43 AM	#112
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Aw darn. Runoff can be fixed, but salty soil is a whole different kind of problem. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

08-30-2007, 04:26 PM	#114
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	blink What is a vertex shader and why would I care if I had one? __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

09-01-2007, 12:46 AM	#119
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Wow! That's great news, Sita! Hey, I'll take "normal" no matter what it means! __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

08-22-2007, 06:35 PM	#101
mikedelaney16 Solar Max Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 201	Is there a technical reason for raising the roof?

08-22-2007, 08:32 PM	#102
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	I would assume that either the cooks or the kitchen appliances were too tall for the original configuration.

08-22-2007, 11:28 PM	#103
shorty943 Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 805	Yep, spot on the money, Lady M. A little more headroom and space is the main reason for the lift. With fresh potable water tankage, grey water waste storage, gas bottles and kitchen hot water services, generators and airconditioning. This has to be entirely self contained and serviced, not at all unlike a ship at sea, or even the space shuttle. It will be operating out of town, at silo and grain storage facilities, basically, out in a paddock. To feed hungry truckers and farmers, who work round the clock for about 3 months to get the harvest in. So the rear floor has been raised to provide room for tanks, the rear passenger door has been removed and will be boxed in to provide space for tanks and gas bottles. And, at 5 foot 6 inches, even I could not stand up in the rear end any more, we had to raise the roof. And we had a bit of fun doing it. Wee, look out its crashing, etc. Luckily, none of us are strangers to this sort of thing, so we were well clear when the final lift proved a little askew. After that, it was just a matter of a couple of strong backs, drop the new support columns into place, and line up the roof again. She dropped on beautifully once I had leveled it up properly. A couple of string lines to help keep it true, and start to weld it all back together. Easy.

08-23-2007, 03:50 AM	#104
mikedelaney16 Solar Max Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 201	Ok, I was thinking like a city boy, where the bus can go back to base every night for fresh supplies and cleaning. I keep forgetting you guys don't measure farm sizes in acres, hectares or even square miles, but hundreds or thousands of square miles.

08-23-2007, 07:41 AM	#105
shorty943 Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 805	You got it. Although this area is smaller farm sizes of only a couple of hundred thousand acres per farm. Further north is the pastoral grazing land, with the big station properties. But they don't crop, too far out of the rainfall line. About 100 years ago, a state surveyor by the name of Goyder, ran around checking rainfall. Some 80 miles north of my location the rainfall gets down below a reliable 11 inches per year, even we can't farm that. Known as Goyders line, we crop south of the line, and graze north of it. And we crop cereal grains, at a rainfall of about 18 inches per year here. South Australia, the driest state, in the driest continent, on the planet. And the Mallee is actually the seabed of an ancient shallow tropical sea. Huge lumps of limestone that are massive plates of fossil coral, rocks that turn out to be huge fossilized giant clam shells. It is a remarkable region.

08-29-2007, 12:41 AM	#106
shorty943 Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 805	Wouldn't you know it. There has been a set back in the IOU thing again. Person in question, had a motorcar accident on Sunday afternoon. Can't leave a single mother and two kids stranded now can I. So now, I have no transport, I have been waiting for this loan to be repaid so I can get a new engine for my Land Rover, no money, and not much humour left either. Que Sera.

08-29-2007, 09:27 AM	#108
shorty943 Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 805	Irrigation?

08-29-2007, 12:54 PM	#109
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	That's where the people upstream spray the river water all over their land so the people downstream don't have any.

08-29-2007, 04:38 PM	#111
shorty943 Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 805	Big problem with old river. One hundred years of European thinking, has almost killed that river. Irrigation run off drains back into the river, some drains are seven times saltier than the ocean. Old river is very sick. What the settlers didn't realise was the nature of the area. The native trees are deep rooted, help keep the water table salt levels down. Settlers cleared the land for crops and livestock, the water table salt has been rising ever since. Today in low lying areas you can almost watch the salt crystalise before your eyes on a summer day.

08-30-2007, 01:51 PM	#113
shorty943 Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 805	Oh yeah. Lots of deep holes, bored all over the place, and saline run off is pumped deep underground in what is called salt interdiction, by the public servants. I call it salinating the artesian basins. On the bright side. I am now sitting at my "new" computer. An ex-government refurbished Acer Veriton 5200. P4 at 1.6 Ghz, 512 Mb of RAM, SIS AGP card with no vertex shaders etc, (but that will be swapped out for an nVidea 5500 next week) and a tiny 20 Gb hard disk, also to be augmented with the windows drives from the 64 bit Athlon. That machine now becomes my Linux only machine now. Yeehaa, Network play time again. With Apache and Samba and all them other tech toys.

08-31-2007, 03:42 PM	#115
mikedelaney16 Solar Max Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 201	Among other things, you need shaders enabled to see fish in the aquariums and/or fish in the ponds.

08-31-2007, 03:43 PM	#116
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	And since Bernadette is fish-obsessed, Greg must have them...

08-31-2007, 05:39 PM	#117
Sita Solar Max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: England Posts: 371	hey I got some good news! Hubby's brain scan was clear, "normal" whatever that means. We had reason to worry, it has been a completely bonkers summer and he has certainly been very unwell. So big relief there.

08-31-2007, 07:52 PM	#118
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Cheer! Glad someone's got good news!

09-01-2007, 01:51 AM	#120
Zenmistress Solar Max Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 153	Good to hear, Sita! I guess having a normal brain is better than an abnormal brain. I'm glad the news was good! __________________ Sandy All my life, I wanted to be somebody... now I see that I should have been more specific.