Strangers in the Sim Bin - Page 2

Zirconia Wolf · 04-16-2007, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg

Now I'm day-dreaming about a really reliable installer and conflict checker. We need a program that will maintain an indexed database of all the GUID's you have in the game already and then check every new installation against that database. It also ought to give you full information about filenames, internal filenames, what's in each file,....

Do etheir of these help? "Sciptorium" sounds more like an auto installer thing (which I really despise) but Delphy's Download Organizer has me very curious!

Sciptorium http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=192613

Delphy's Download Organizer http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=227925

-ZW

Miros1 · 04-16-2007, 02:03 PM

"Scriptorium" is to easily add text files for custom stairs and such. It adds an "include" statement to each of the Maxis files and a sub-folder for each. Then it adds a shortcut to the Downloads directory so you can drag and drop the text file.

Will check out Delphy's program; haven't seen that yet.

Zirconia Wolf · 04-16-2007, 02:10 PM

Well I just downloaded (installed & ran) Delphy's Download Organizer and can only say "WOW!"

I pointed it toward my Downloads folder & let it go. It scanned every package file in there (including the sub-folders! ) in just under a minute or so. No small feat as it says I have 6,879 of those things!

It's really nice to finally know exactly what 184527295635372 (or whathaveyou) actually IS!

I'm hooked!

-ZW

Miros1 · 04-16-2007, 03:06 PM

I've downloaded it, but haven't installed yet. I'm impressed from your info! Guess I won't have to write one myself now.

Miros1 · 04-16-2007, 03:52 PM

Crap, bad archive. This is why I use GetRight. <bites Greg just for fun> Trying again...

Miros1 · 04-16-2007, 04:34 PM

Got the good file; ran the proggie. Sooooooooooooo neat!

Greg · 04-16-2007, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zirconia Wolf

Do etheir of these help? "Sciptorium" sounds more like an auto installer thing (which I really despise) but Delphy's Download Organizer has me very curious!

Sciptorium http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=192613

Delphy's Download Organizer http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=227925

-ZW

Wow! Ask and ye shall receive!

This looks great! I'm letting it do its first run now. It found 10,471 files in my Downloads folder.

Greg · 04-16-2007, 11:59 PM

Scan done! Five minutes, 17 seconds; 34 files per second. Extreme wowness here!

Now to see what I can do with it!

Greg · 04-17-2007, 12:08 AM

Aha! Suspicions confirmed! It found a bazillion sims in my Downloads folder and about half of them have long hexadecimal file names!

Miros1 · 04-17-2007, 03:04 AM

Now for the special features... in the File menu, there's options to "Scan for Duplicate" and "Scan for Orphans." The first finds duplicate files with different names. The second one finds textures without meshes and meshes without textures, for skins and objects.

Greg · 04-17-2007, 07:24 AM

This is really neat! Delphy's notes say that if you find a lot of orphans, they probably aren't all orphans. It found more than 300 orphans in my Downloads directory, mostly meshes without textures; and there were definitely a few on the list that I know work correctly in my game.

So it isn't perfect, but it's infinitely better than nothing!

homerette · 04-17-2007, 07:43 AM

I had about 500 plus, and only a small fraction were actual orphans for me as well.

But, if I'm using the sucker correctly, once you check for orphans once and you don't remove the offenders, they don't register as orphans in subsequent scans. Of course, I sequestered all of the offenders and checked them out before replacing the good ones, having read Delphy's warning.

Greg · 04-17-2007, 07:55 AM

Yeah, I think I'll have to read and fiddle some more before I've learned all the tricks you can do with this thing.

I really like the feature that gives you a complete list of all the hacks; wish there were an option to export the list to a csv file. That would make it easier to keep track of all the hacks I have installed.

Miros1 · 04-17-2007, 09:04 AM

Yeah, I'd like that too! Make it easier to track down what's missing, if you could copy from a spreadsheet...

Also the ability to disable, rather than delete!

I did post the feature suggestions on MTS2.

Miros1 · 04-17-2007, 01:25 PM

Delphy sez hack the XML file yourself... It's right in the directory with the executable. Maybe I'll write a report generator...

There's also a post saying he's working on the false positives in orphan detection. I know I got several because I had a mesh and a texture in one skin file, and the proggie only saw the texture, so that skin and all the recolors of it were marked orphans.

I'm reading the Wiki page now.... http://www.sims2wiki.info/DDO

Greg · 04-17-2007, 06:14 PM

Oh neat! A wiki! That's yet another toy I have no hope of being able to keep up with!

Miros1 · 04-18-2007, 02:12 PM

I only go there when I need info. Most Sims2 hacking info is there somewhere.

Miros1 · 04-18-2007, 02:27 PM

Woohoo! Update to Download Organizer!

Downloading and installing now... Make sure you do a Full Rescan first thing!

Miros1 · 04-18-2007, 08:00 PM

Bad news... it fixes some non-orphans, but claims an additional 400 files are orphans now. I've sent both orphan lists to Delphy, maybe he can figure out what's going on... Marvine is having similar problems too!

homerette · 04-19-2007, 02:43 AM

I've noticed if you have a mesh, say for a hair, that if you remove the original textures that came with it, but still use another creator's re-textures, they tend to be classified as orphans.

04-16-2007, 02:10 PM	#23
Zirconia Wolf Reticulated MoonBat Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: My trusty computer in Issaquah WA, USA. Posts: 848	Well I just downloaded (installed & ran) Delphy's Download Organizer and can only say "WOW!" I pointed it toward my Downloads folder & let it go. It scanned every package file in there (including the sub-folders! ) in just under a minute or so. No small feat as it says I have 6,879 of those things! It's really nice to finally know exactly what 184527295635372 (or whathaveyou) actually IS! I'm hooked! -ZW __________________ Long Live All Wild Canines! Leader Of The Moon-Bat Revolution!

04-17-2007, 09:04 AM	#34
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Yeah, I'd like that too! Make it easier to track down what's missing, if you could copy from a spreadsheet... Also the ability to disable, rather than delete! I did post the feature suggestions on MTS2. Last edited by Miros1 : 04-17-2007 at 11:33 AM.

04-17-2007, 01:25 PM	#35
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Delphy sez hack the XML file yourself... It's right in the directory with the executable. Maybe I'll write a report generator... There's also a post saying he's working on the false positives in orphan detection. I know I got several because I had a mesh and a texture in one skin file, and the proggie only saw the texture, so that skin and all the recolors of it were marked orphans. I'm reading the Wiki page now.... http://www.sims2wiki.info/DDO Last edited by Miros1 : 04-17-2007 at 01:32 PM.

04-16-2007, 02:03 PM	#22
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	"Scriptorium" is to easily add text files for custom stairs and such. It adds an "include" statement to each of the Maxis files and a sub-folder for each. Then it adds a shortcut to the Downloads directory so you can drag and drop the text file. Will check out Delphy's program; haven't seen that yet.

04-16-2007, 03:06 PM	#24
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	I've downloaded it, but haven't installed yet. I'm impressed from your info! Guess I won't have to write one myself now.

04-16-2007, 03:52 PM	#25
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Crap, bad archive. This is why I use GetRight. <bites Greg just for fun> Trying again...

04-16-2007, 04:34 PM	#26
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Got the good file; ran the proggie. Sooooooooooooo neat!

04-16-2007, 11:59 PM	#28
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Scan done! Five minutes, 17 seconds; 34 files per second. Extreme wowness here! Now to see what I can do with it!

04-17-2007, 12:08 AM	#29
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Aha! Suspicions confirmed! It found a bazillion sims in my Downloads folder and about half of them have long hexadecimal file names!

04-17-2007, 03:04 AM	#30
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Now for the special features... in the File menu, there's options to "Scan for Duplicate" and "Scan for Orphans." The first finds duplicate files with different names. The second one finds textures without meshes and meshes without textures, for skins and objects.

04-17-2007, 07:24 AM	#31
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	This is really neat! Delphy's notes say that if you find a lot of orphans, they probably aren't all orphans. It found more than 300 orphans in my Downloads directory, mostly meshes without textures; and there were definitely a few on the list that I know work correctly in my game. So it isn't perfect, but it's infinitely better than nothing!

04-17-2007, 07:43 AM	#32
homerette Day late & a dollar short Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: central VA Posts: 206	I had about 500 plus, and only a small fraction were actual orphans for me as well. But, if I'm using the sucker correctly, once you check for orphans once and you don't remove the offenders, they don't register as orphans in subsequent scans. Of course, I sequestered all of the offenders and checked them out before replacing the good ones, having read Delphy's warning.

04-17-2007, 07:55 AM	#33
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Yeah, I think I'll have to read and fiddle some more before I've learned all the tricks you can do with this thing. I really like the feature that gives you a complete list of all the hacks; wish there were an option to export the list to a csv file. That would make it easier to keep track of all the hacks I have installed.

04-17-2007, 06:14 PM	#36
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Oh neat! A wiki! That's yet another toy I have no hope of being able to keep up with!

04-18-2007, 02:12 PM	#37
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	I only go there when I need info. Most Sims2 hacking info is there somewhere.

04-18-2007, 02:27 PM	#38
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Woohoo! Update to Download Organizer! Downloading and installing now... Make sure you do a Full Rescan first thing!

04-18-2007, 08:00 PM	#39
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Bad news... it fixes some non-orphans, but claims an additional 400 files are orphans now. I've sent both orphan lists to Delphy, maybe he can figure out what's going on... Marvine is having similar problems too!

04-19-2007, 02:43 AM	#40
homerette Day late & a dollar short Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: central VA Posts: 206	I've noticed if you have a mesh, say for a hair, that if you remove the original textures that came with it, but still use another creator's re-textures, they tend to be classified as orphans.