So what about this Chinese moon photo?

Sita · 12-06-2007, 12:28 PM

http://science.slashdot.org/article....41209&from=rss

IS it doctored? and if so, why move a crater? This is reminiscent of 2001....

Did they really go there at all?

mikedelaney16 · 12-06-2007, 01:09 PM

The explanation that the photo suffers from bad stitching at the seams makes perfect sense to me. It's really really hard to stitch photos together and the software doesn't always get it right.

Of course Chinese politics comes into this. The photo is obviously the space equivalent of a Hollywood rush, but the politicians decided to treat it as the final product.

Greg · 12-07-2007, 05:01 PM

I don't know of any real reason to doubt that the Chinese moon probe made it there.

shorty943 · 12-07-2007, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mikedelaney16

The explanation that the photo suffers from bad stitching at the seams makes perfect sense to me. It's really really hard to stitch photos together and the software doesn't always get it right.

Of course Chinese politics comes into this. The photo is obviously the space equivalent of a Hollywood rush, but the politicians decided to treat it as the final product.

You think only the Chinese are like that?

We just had a change of government here. Now our Labour politicians are all rabbiting about "controlling the climate".

I can't wait to see the remote control they build.

mikedelaney16 · 12-07-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shorty943

You think only the Chinese are like that?

Of course not, they're just inexperienced in space travel (or indeed publicizing anything) and overanxious to keep their success in the public eye.

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Originally Posted by shorty943

We just had a change of government here. Now our Labour politicians are all rabbiting about "controlling the climate".

Are they related to "New Labour" in Britain?
Have you seen "V for Vendetta"?

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Originally Posted by shorty943

I can't wait to see the remote control they build.

Hmm, Sim City with disaster-mode swithced on? (I was always amazed how the fire stations were usually among the first to go.)

Greg · 12-08-2007, 03:39 PM

Is "New Labour" a new party or a slogan for the old Labour party?

mikedelaney16 · 12-08-2007, 05:41 PM

"New Labour" is what they've been calling the British Labour Party since Tony Blair took over the leadership before he was ever prime minister. They're no longer very new, they've also passed one new law for every day they've been in government. That's a heck of a lot of new laws over the course of 10-11 years.

Greg · 12-09-2007, 02:06 AM

Holy cow! How do you ever keep track of it all?

shorty943 · 12-09-2007, 09:28 AM

We've got specially trained people for that.

They're called, The Department of ........

Don't you worry, our public\civil\state servants, in the "Department of" makes sure we know what's what.

mikedelaney16 · 12-09-2007, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg

Holy cow! How do you ever keep track of it all?

I think that's what the British bobby on the streets is saying

Greg · 12-09-2007, 09:32 PM

Maybe the next law that pass should be one requiring them to repeal one law for every new one they pass.

mikedelaney16 · 12-10-2007, 02:35 AM

That will never happen.

Greg · 12-11-2007, 03:45 AM

Well, it hasn't happened yet! But hope springs eternal...

Sita · 12-13-2007, 10:50 AM

The whole point about "New Labour" is that they are completely unrelated to "Old Labour" and are actually much closer to the Conservative party (similar to US Republicans) and New Labour, in many British and particularly in union circles, tends to be pronounced with a sneer or a sob.
They rescinded the good labour (=industrial relations) laws here; it is now completely illegal to hold an unofficial strike here, for instance, and employee's rights have been cut right down to the bone; and they continued the work of The Thatcher by cutting benefits and reducing (in real terms) the funding for the National Health Service).
It's an example of Doublethink (Huxley). Doesn't matter what you do but if you confuse the electorate and keep telling them it is for their own good they will accept it. While you bathe in caviar.

Greg · 12-14-2007, 01:49 AM

(It was right about here that the discussion in this topic pushed my tolerance for politicking past its limit. Folks, if you want to do politics, please do it on a political site.)

Sita · 12-14-2007, 03:07 PM

I know, I thought I would get slapped down for politics. But the question was asked. By you.

Greg · 12-14-2007, 04:16 PM

Your answer does show some political bias but the real problem was that after that others used that as an excuse to igore the site's published rules about such things. I should have thought that it would be too tempting if I asked a simple question about what Labour Party we were talking about.

mikedelaney16 · 12-14-2007, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg

but the real problem was that after that others used that as an excuse to ignore the site's published rules about such things.

If you rephrase the above to: "but the real problem was that after that others got carried away and forgot the site's published rules about such things." then it would be 100% accurate. At least in my case.

To ignore the site rules would have required thinking about them.

Greg · 12-14-2007, 11:07 PM

I shall be more than happy to refresh your memory!

shorty943 · 12-15-2007, 01:51 AM

Hm, making fun of things political, is a no no. Got it.

Oh dear, that just about finishes Aussie comedy.
Our pollies are hilarious.

As for the Chinese Lunar probe?
They must have made it, they sent back the polaroids, didn't they.

12-06-2007, 12:28 PM	#1
Sita Solar Max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: England Posts: 371	So what about this Chinese moon photo? http://science.slashdot.org/article....41209&from=rss IS it doctored? and if so, why move a crater? This is reminiscent of 2001.... Did they really go there at all?

12-07-2007, 05:01 PM	#3
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	I don't know of any real reason to doubt that the Chinese moon probe made it there. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

12-08-2007, 03:39 PM	#6
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Is "New Labour" a new party or a slogan for the old Labour party? __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

12-09-2007, 02:06 AM	#8
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Holy cow! How do you ever keep track of it all? __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

12-09-2007, 09:32 PM	#11
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Maybe the next law that pass should be one requiring them to repeal one law for every new one they pass. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

12-06-2007, 01:09 PM	#2
mikedelaney16 Solar Max Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 201	The explanation that the photo suffers from bad stitching at the seams makes perfect sense to me. It's really really hard to stitch photos together and the software doesn't always get it right. Of course Chinese politics comes into this. The photo is obviously the space equivalent of a Hollywood rush, but the politicians decided to treat it as the final product.

12-08-2007, 05:41 PM	#7
mikedelaney16 Solar Max Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 201	"New Labour" is what they've been calling the British Labour Party since Tony Blair took over the leadership before he was ever prime minister. They're no longer very new, they've also passed one new law for every day they've been in government. That's a heck of a lot of new laws over the course of 10-11 years.

12-09-2007, 09:28 AM	#9
shorty943 Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 805	We've got specially trained people for that. They're called, The Department of ........ Don't you worry, our public\civil\state servants, in the "Department of" makes sure we know what's what.

12-10-2007, 02:35 AM	#12
mikedelaney16 Solar Max Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 201	That will never happen.

12-11-2007, 03:45 AM	#13
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Well, it hasn't happened yet! But hope springs eternal... __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

12-13-2007, 10:50 AM	#14
Sita Solar Max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: England Posts: 371	The whole point about "New Labour" is that they are completely unrelated to "Old Labour" and are actually much closer to the Conservative party (similar to US Republicans) and New Labour, in many British and particularly in union circles, tends to be pronounced with a sneer or a sob. They rescinded the good labour (=industrial relations) laws here; it is now completely illegal to hold an unofficial strike here, for instance, and employee's rights have been cut right down to the bone; and they continued the work of The Thatcher by cutting benefits and reducing (in real terms) the funding for the National Health Service). It's an example of Doublethink (Huxley). Doesn't matter what you do but if you confuse the electorate and keep telling them it is for their own good they will accept it. While you bathe in caviar.

12-14-2007, 01:49 AM	#15
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	(It was right about here that the discussion in this topic pushed my tolerance for politicking past its limit. Folks, if you want to do politics, please do it on a political site.) __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

12-14-2007, 03:07 PM	#16
Sita Solar Max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: England Posts: 371	I know, I thought I would get slapped down for politics. But the question was asked. By you.

12-14-2007, 04:16 PM	#17
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Your answer does show some political bias but the real problem was that after that others used that as an excuse to igore the site's published rules about such things. I should have thought that it would be too tempting if I asked a simple question about what Labour Party we were talking about. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

12-14-2007, 11:07 PM	#19
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	I shall be more than happy to refresh your memory! __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

12-15-2007, 01:51 AM	#20
shorty943 Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 805	Hm, making fun of things political, is a no no. Got it. Oh dear, that just about finishes Aussie comedy. Our pollies are hilarious. As for the Chinese Lunar probe? They must have made it, they sent back the polaroids, didn't they.