OMG! Row houses are possible!

Miros1 · 08-07-2008, 09:38 PM

http://forums.thesimsresource.com/sh...=1#post3728422

What you do is take a 3 tile wide (any depth) lot and build two walls front to back across the whole property 10 squares from each side (sanity check, should be 10 squares apart).

Then you run LotExpander (there might be a newer version, I'll have to check) and remove a tile from both the right and left sides. The property now has walls right on the property lines.

Miros1 · 08-07-2008, 09:52 PM

Last version of LotExpander: http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=175884
Superceded by LotAdjuster: http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=282409
Tutorial on how to do Row Houses correctly: http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=286909

Miros1 · 08-07-2008, 09:53 PM

Can you tell I'm a little excited?

Hokieman · 08-07-2008, 11:48 PM

I would have never guessed!!

Greg · 08-08-2008, 01:15 AM

Goodness gracious! There might be a use for Lot Expander after all!

But how do they look on the Neighborhood screen?

Miros1 · 08-08-2008, 03:01 AM

Here's a picture: http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=285485
Looks pretty darn good to me!

There's actually a one square gap at the sides of the lot, but it's completely hidden by the walls extending across it. It also helps you hide the sloping bit from the basement excavation.

I'm so psyched!

Greg · 08-08-2008, 11:57 PM

As best I can tell, all those pictures were taken while visiting the lost. I was wondering how they look in the neighborhood. My experience with Lot Expander is that it makes a mess of your Neighborhood view.

Miros1 · 08-09-2008, 01:29 AM

Actually, that's been improved too... if you expand a lot, you've got the choice of flattening to match the current lot or following the neighborhood terrain. This includes following sloping roads!

There is also a note in the tutorial that you should make some build mode change to force the neighborhood view to refresh after expanding or shrinking a lot.

Greg · 08-09-2008, 04:14 AM

Oh! Neat! I haven't paid much attention to Lot Expander since my first adventures with it.

Zirconia Wolf · 08-09-2008, 01:40 PM

I never saw the point of having the Lot Expander...until now!

With the Apartment Life EP due out soon, these "Row Houses" will be a perfect addition to a Hood!

-ZW

** EDITED TO ADD **

Ohmygoodness!

You can actually put a driveway in the back of a lot & it will function correctly!?

(ZW runs off to re-tweak the lots she thought could never have Cars..)

Miros1 · 08-10-2008, 02:02 AM

I've got what I think is a great idea for a modernistic row house -- two houses that link together unevenly (one more foreward, one more back) so you just alternate the two lots for the length of the block, then tidy up the ends by removing the "stub" walls.

What I want to do with Lot Expander is build the Arc de Triomphe!

Greg · 08-10-2008, 08:15 PM

I think it works if you use the 'move_objects on' command to put a driveway extension anywhere on the lot. I have one of those out back of Happy Valley High School and I'm pretty sure that the car just jumps to the street.

Fantastic idea, Rose! If you can build adjacent buildings, that means you can make BIG buildings on multiple lots!

Miros1 · 08-10-2008, 10:25 PM

Lot Expander will let you build across the street too...

Greg · 08-10-2008, 10:28 PM

Zowie! Imagine the possibilities! Did the fix for the Neighborhood view even fix it to the point that it works to have a building across the road?

I'm thinking of the overpasses over Interstate 90 that lead to the rest areas.

Zirconia Wolf · 08-11-2008, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miros1

Lot Expander will let you build across the street too...

Looks like the Lot Expander is going to be a "must have" now!

-ZW

Greg · 08-11-2008, 11:28 AM

It sounds like it. It all depends on what it does to the views from other lots and from the Neighborhood view.

Hokieman · 08-11-2008, 11:47 PM

Greg, when you use the lot expander then start the game, the lot will be a blue square. Once you go into the lot and make a change and save again, the neighborhood view is the same as always except your lot is now the new size. It's not an issue, really!

Though I strongly suggest that you only use it on an unoccupied lot.

Greg · 08-11-2008, 11:48 PM

The last time I used Lot Expander (quite a while ago), the lot overlapped the road so that the Neighborhood view looked really weird.

Hokieman · 08-12-2008, 01:09 AM

Yep, it does that if you add tiles to the front or the lot can't expand to the back for some reason. You just move it to a new location. I fnd it best to do it in a clean flat neighborhood - no neighborhood decorations and only the lots you want to work with.

Greg · 08-12-2008, 11:39 AM

I think that's why I was confused about Rose's note that you can build over roads. It doesn't help if the road doesn't show.

08-07-2008, 09:38 PM	#1
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	OMG! Row houses are possible! http://forums.thesimsresource.com/sh...=1#post3728422 What you do is take a 3 tile wide (any depth) lot and build two walls front to back across the whole property 10 squares from each side (sanity check, should be 10 squares apart). Then you run LotExpander (there might be a newer version, I'll have to check) and remove a tile from both the right and left sides. The property now has walls right on the property lines. __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

08-07-2008, 09:52 PM	#2
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Last version of LotExpander: http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=175884 Superceded by LotAdjuster: http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=282409 Tutorial on how to do Row Houses correctly: http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=286909 __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

08-07-2008, 09:53 PM	#3
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Can you tell I'm a little excited? __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

08-08-2008, 01:15 AM	#5
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Goodness gracious! There might be a use for Lot Expander after all! But how do they look on the Neighborhood screen? __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

08-08-2008, 03:01 AM	#6
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Here's a picture: http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=285485 Looks pretty darn good to me! There's actually a one square gap at the sides of the lot, but it's completely hidden by the walls extending across it. It also helps you hide the sloping bit from the basement excavation. I'm so psyched! __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game). Last edited by Miros1 : 08-08-2008 at 03:14 AM.

08-07-2008, 11:48 PM	#4
Hokieman Solar Max Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 520	I would have never guessed!!

08-08-2008, 11:57 PM	#7
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	As best I can tell, all those pictures were taken while visiting the lost. I was wondering how they look in the neighborhood. My experience with Lot Expander is that it makes a mess of your Neighborhood view. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

08-09-2008, 01:29 AM	#8
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Actually, that's been improved too... if you expand a lot, you've got the choice of flattening to match the current lot or following the neighborhood terrain. This includes following sloping roads! There is also a note in the tutorial that you should make some build mode change to force the neighborhood view to refresh after expanding or shrinking a lot. __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

08-09-2008, 04:14 AM	#9
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Oh! Neat! I haven't paid much attention to Lot Expander since my first adventures with it. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

08-09-2008, 01:40 PM	#10
Zirconia Wolf Reticulated MoonBat Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: My trusty computer in Issaquah WA, USA. Posts: 848	I never saw the point of having the Lot Expander...until now! With the Apartment Life EP due out soon, these "Row Houses" will be a perfect addition to a Hood! -ZW EDITED TO ADD Ohmygoodness! You can actually put a driveway in the back of a lot & it will function correctly!? (ZW runs off to re-tweak the lots she thought could never have Cars..) __________________ Long Live All Wild Canines! Leader Of The Moon-Bat Revolution! Last edited by Zirconia Wolf : 08-09-2008 at 01:45 PM. Reason: added driveway comment

08-10-2008, 02:02 AM	#11
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	I've got what I think is a great idea for a modernistic row house -- two houses that link together unevenly (one more foreward, one more back) so you just alternate the two lots for the length of the block, then tidy up the ends by removing the "stub" walls. What I want to do with Lot Expander is build the Arc de Triomphe! __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

08-10-2008, 08:15 PM	#12
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	I think it works if you use the 'move_objects on' command to put a driveway extension anywhere on the lot. I have one of those out back of Happy Valley High School and I'm pretty sure that the car just jumps to the street. Fantastic idea, Rose! If you can build adjacent buildings, that means you can make BIG buildings on multiple lots! __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

08-10-2008, 10:25 PM	#13
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Lot Expander will let you build across the street too... __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

08-10-2008, 10:28 PM	#14
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Zowie! Imagine the possibilities! Did the fix for the Neighborhood view even fix it to the point that it works to have a building across the road? I'm thinking of the overpasses over Interstate 90 that lead to the rest areas. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

08-11-2008, 11:28 AM	#16
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	It sounds like it. It all depends on what it does to the views from other lots and from the Neighborhood view. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

08-11-2008, 11:47 PM	#17
Hokieman Solar Max Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 520	Greg, when you use the lot expander then start the game, the lot will be a blue square. Once you go into the lot and make a change and save again, the neighborhood view is the same as always except your lot is now the new size. It's not an issue, really! Though I strongly suggest that you only use it on an unoccupied lot.

08-11-2008, 11:48 PM	#18
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	The last time I used Lot Expander (quite a while ago), the lot overlapped the road so that the Neighborhood view looked really weird. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

08-12-2008, 01:09 AM	#19
Hokieman Solar Max Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 520	Yep, it does that if you add tiles to the front or the lot can't expand to the back for some reason. You just move it to a new location. I fnd it best to do it in a clean flat neighborhood - no neighborhood decorations and only the lots you want to work with.

08-12-2008, 11:39 AM	#20
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	I think that's why I was confused about Rose's note that you can build over roads. It doesn't help if the road doesn't show. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?